Tags: Elizabeth II and Mary Boleyn, Mary Boleyn, Mary Boleyn's descendants, Queen Elizabeth II. But, my Grandpa Howard sure lived a different life from the Queen. On Wikitree.com someone has a Walter Gilliam as son of: Sir Walter Devereux & Lady Mary Grey, brother of Sir Richard Devereux, who married Lady Dorothy Hastings. I had no idea Elizabeth II was descended from Mary Boleyn. I recently discovered that I, too, am descended from Mary Boleyn! At dawn the next day Norris was taken to the Tower. Categories: Mary Boleyn, Monarchy What irony that, Queen Elizabeth I, came from Anne & that HM, Queen Elizabeth II, descended from Mary. Another story, reported third-hand by Chapuys, quotes Henry as telling an unidentified courtier that he had married Anne “seduced and constrained by sortilèges”. The queen’s link to Margaret Tudor is through her father, King George VI, who was descended from James VI’s daughter, Princess Elizabeth, James VI being great-grandson of Margaret Tudor and her first husband, James IV. Is it noy just amazing how Her Highness , Queen Anne ( who was so brutally murdered ) family produced Elizabeth I who brought prosperity in the turmoil her sister created ! Anne Boleyn was the first English queen to be publicly executed. I was wondering if Queen Elizabeth 2 is also featured to Ann Boleyn because she was Mary’s sister. Reinforces the fact that she is related via an illegitimate line though if Henry Viii was her father. They were just all into each other. HI Dawn , DO you know it George who was an Aulderman in Nottingham in the 1800s who’s son Henry started the Carey and Sons Lace mill in Nottingham ? George III My son sang in the church choir there from age 7-14. A German engraving c. 1830, showing Anne Boleyn’s execution. Had Henry and Anne’s relationship gone into terminal decline, prompting Henry to invent the charges against his wife? I was wondering the same: As I explain in the above post, the link to Mary Boleyn came from Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, whose Bowes-Lyon and Bentinck family were descended from Catherine Carey, daughter of Catherine Carey. Some of his other siblings include Arthur, the Prince of Wales, Margaret, and Mary. If we’re looking at where Her Majesty’s grandparents were born, you’d have to consider her 100% British. Catherine Carey born 1524 , certainly rises serious speculations as to who begot her , in 1524 Mary Boleyn was a young maiden no older than 18 .and King Henry VIII being a hot blooded virile Tudor , According to Tudor specialist Retha Warnicke, the delivery of a “shapeless mass of flesh” proved in Henry’s mind that Anne was both a witch and adulterously promiscuous. Her death is so familiar to us that it is hard to imagine how shocking it would have been: the queen of England executed on charges of adultery, incest and conspiring the king’s death. Did Anne Stanhope, Edward Seymour’s wife, really have scandalous affairs? Her love-match with Henry VIII and her subsequent execution at the Tower of London after only three years of marriage have inspired dozens of books and films.. Everyone wants to know how she really felt and how and why she became queen: was she a ruthless schemer or was her death simply a tragic consequence of court politics? Suzannah Lipscomb tries to unearth the real reason why Henry VIII sent his second wife, Anne Boleyn, to the block. Karma Henry! Albert Spencer, 7th Earl Spencer Queen Victoria Queen elizabeth is descended from margerat tudor who was sister to henry the eighth she is also descended from mary boleyn. Is it that much of a surprise Queen Elizabeth II is decended from so many Royals? Lady Catherine Grace (Tudor) Carey, Countess of Nottingham b.1524 is my 12th great grandmother! How amazing and awesome then, that Elizabeth II would also be related to Catherine Howard, cousin of Mary Boleyn!!! Therefor she has royal blood on both sides of her parents. Henry sent Princess Mary to Ludlow Castle as Princess of Wales and his official heir, but even that did not stop the rumors or her mother’s concerns. She is decended from marriages of cousins. – Hell Yes! Of course they were found buried in the wall. George V I hope that helps. Queen Jane treated Mary well, befriending her husband's oldest child, and returning some of the signs of rank that Mary had been denied while Anne Boleyn had been alive. This article was about the Queen’s link to the Boleyns, but you can see the royal line of descent at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_of_Elizabeth_II_from_William_the_Conqueror. You have successfully linked your account! Fun fact … Lieutenant-Colonel Lord Charles Bentinck eloped with Anne Wellesley (Lady Abdy) while she was still married. Through her mother. Et j’apprends, en fin de documentaire, qu’elle vient de Mary Boleyn ! Anne had asked Norris why he did not go through with his marriage. Queen Anne Boleyn. Accompanied William the Conquerer during the She is most likely also related to Queen Jane Seymour, through William Seymour, the Duke of Somerset. Learn how your comment data is processed.if(typeof __ez_fad_position != 'undefined'){__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-theanneboleynfiles_com-medrectangle-1-0')};report this ad, Copyright © 2021 The Anne Boleyn Files Five hundred years after her death, her tragic tale is still the subject of historians and the inspiration for films. I also read recently that Sophie Countess of Wessex was distant relative of Bessie Blount. Thank you, I came by this site by accident and I find it informative and to be honest a breath of fresh air to other sites I have stumbled upon. Yet by 18 May, Anne Boleyn’s execution was delayed for a second time and she was noted as saying to Master Kingston, Captain of the Tower of London, that it was ‘not that she desired death, but that she thought herself prepared to die’ (De Carles). Mary was proclaimed Queen of England on July 19, 1553 in London. Princess Diana and Prince William are directly descended from the cousin, Robert Carey, who was with Elizabeth 1st when she died and rode hard and quickly to tell James v1 of Scotland that he had now become James 1st of England. properly donated his DNA more times than once with the Boleyn girls. I think that it’s interesting that queen Elizabeth is also a descendant of Elizabeth woodville thru her granddaughter Margaret Tudor. Fascinating! There is also line back to William the Conqueror. 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On the morning of 19 May 1536, Anne Boleyn climbed the scaffold erected on Tower Green, within the walls of the Tower of London. I have ancestry traced back to Henry Carey as well with Mary Boleyn being his Mother how accurate and reliable can this be through Family Search.com is Henry Carey the son of Henry the VIII or William Carey it seems to me there were many children not being able to prove bloodline and anything could be possible but we will never know! Hello Patricia and Sarah I am also related to Mary Boleyn Through Thomas West! My dad Robert walterTaylor royalty my name Phyllis ann Taylor I was born in ny Oct 16 1954 trying to find relatives. Wow! Yet, as another Boleyn biographer Eric Ives noted, three-quarters of the specific accusations of adulterous liaisons made in the indictment can be discredited, even 500 years later. If Henry VII had recognized Catherine as his illegitimate daughter he probably would have elevated Mary Boleyn-Carey and her husband to at least a baronency. Seventeen years later, Elizabeth was born to Henry and his second wife Anne Boleyn, in 1533. She was executed at his command in1541, Hi…I am Jesica and I come from Indonesia.I am very interested in the Tudor Dynasty!I thought their story were so intriguing and interesting and I am thoroughly fascinated by Anne Boleyn.So it was naturally such a jolly occasion for me to have found this page and WOW!! At that time, Henry was having an affair with Anne’s sister, Mary, Henry VIII falls in love with Anne. In response to Jane’s coyness, Henry’s love for her was said to have “marvellously increased”. Chapuys, rather maliciously, interpreted this as showing that Henry had abandoned Anne, “whereas in former times he could hardly be one hour without her”. Read, read, read. Mary Tudor was well known for her kindness and support in the area. I an 2nd generation American born. Anne Boleyn: The king’s passion, the people’s enemy. I thought that was very interesting as pale skin, blue eyes and blonde hair do seem to run in her family. Many people hanks, I have been searching how Queen Elizabeth is related to me, now I know, My 20th Great Grandmother was Mary Boleyn, Thank You, Wow so they are my ancestors on both sides ,Lady Anne BOLEYN Shelton is my 16th great grandmother which was Anne Boleyn aunt . These included Sir Henry Norris, a personal body servant and one of his closest friends, whom he questioned throughout the journey. Thank you everyone for your imput!! Evidence for this view is taken from the writings of the ever-hopeful Chapuys. I saw in my family tree that we are related to Anne Boleyn but my great grandmother’s name was spelled Bolen. The latter was questioned and released, but the others were imprisoned in the Tower. And insestreouse basterds. It’s wonderful to realize that the Boleyn bloodline continues. James I, who inherited the throne from Elizabeth I However, just nine days into Jane’s “reign,” she was deposed by Mary and her army of supporters. Given that Anne was accused of conspiring the king’s death (the only charge that actually constituted treason – consensual adultery was not covered by the treason law of 1352), it seems likely that the evidence used to demonstrate her guilt was a conversation she recalled – and William Kingston reported – with Norris.  || Wordpress installation and design by http://www.MadeGlobal.com, FREE Anne Boleyn Read the pedigree above. George Boleyn, Viscount Rochford (c. 1503 /c. This was very interesting. Have found it his article very informative. Lady Jane Grey was proclaimed queen three days later. That was truly awesome I really had no idea that they were related! I thought that Lettice Knollys married Robert Dudley who was also Elizabeth Tudor’s I love to read about British heritage. wow that is facinating it seems the boleyn bloodline continues and maybe the tudors as well since even today Henry could have fathered Mary Boleyn’s children i guess will never know toodles M.M.L. So little is known about such famous people. Two sisters contend for the affection of King Henry VIII. Keep up the good work and once again Thank You. Thank you for the above post I knew the Queen was half English & half German ancestry but didn’t know it went back that far. Our present queen’s claim to the throne didn’t come from Mary Boleyn or the Careys (who had nothing to do with the line of succession), it came from her father, George VI and his royal line. I’m also very well pleased that the Boleyn bloodline carries on and that the two great Queen Elizabeths are descended from them. My ancestors are from Europe. and so on…. When it comes to Anne Boleyn’s fall, historians give their ‘best guess’ answers on the basis of the available evidence – which is too sparse to be conclusive. On 10 May, a grand jury indicted all of the accused, apart from Page and Wyatt. But this hasn’t come from a strong source. Did the life of Anne Boleyn make an impact on history? It has been suggested that Cromwell’s court faction intended to replace Anne with Jane Seymour. With Natascha McElhone, Jodhi May, Jared Harris, Steven Mackintosh. If do that is incorrect. Incroyable ! On the same evening the king postponed a trip with Anne to Calais, planned for 2 May. Both Elizabeths descended from the Boleyn sisters. I’M GONNA BE ASLEEP ALL DAY AFTER THIS HAHAHAHAHAHA, I was wondering how Elizabeth I is related to the present queen, Elizabeth II. That would make him her 12X Great Uncle. The next day, 1 May, Smeaton was moved to the Tower. Georgiana Spencer, wife of John Spencer, 1st Earl Spencer Supposedly, Lettice and Robert were having an affair before Walter passed away. Would love to see lineage connecting Henry VIII to the Shah of Persia. On 17 May Archbishop Thomas Cranmer declared the marriage of Henry and Anne null, and by 19 May, all six convicted had been executed. She made light of her own guilt by stating that “it was little in her case in comparison with that of the queen”. Merci infiniment ! Clare, how did the line of succession continue if Mary Tudor was not the queen but the sister of a queen (who was dethroned and beheaded) and the paternity of Mary’s children has not been proven either way not to mention if Catherine was Henry’s she would have been illiginenament anyway? How did the line of succession continue if Mary [Boleyn] was not the queen but the sister of a queen (who was dethroned and beheaded) and the paternity of Mary’s children has not been proven either way not to mention if Catherine was Henry’s she would have been [illegitimate] anyway? I do not think Queen Elizabeth descend3d from Mary Boleyn. Chapuys mentioned Jane in a letter of 10 February 1536, reporting that Henry had sent her a gift of a purse full of sovereigns, accompanied by a letter. Other evidence for Anne’s guilt is unclear – the trial documents do not survive. If you come up empty, after taking a DNA test and finding close relatives, you can probably find some family information on genealogy sites. Edward died on July 6 1553, just six years into his reign. King marries for heirs to continue his dynasty – doesn’t happen very long. Thanks Claire! Great post. I believe that Anne was innocent, but caught out by her careless words. Thanks! I am a direct descendant of Mary Boleyn through her daughter Catherine Carey! Mary was described as “inconsolable” at the loss of her beloved mother. He was born in 1491. All of it is so fascinating and mind-boggling! Wonderful! On 12 May, Smeaton, Brereton, Weston and Norris were tried and found guilty of adultery with the queen, and of conspiring the king’s death. Have you visited it? I hope that because of technology this blood transfusion of very close related people will end. when did Lettice Knollys marry Walter. Maybe someone could help me put together whether or not the Boleyn’s descended from the Sassanid and Safavid dynasties of Persia. Elizabeth II cousin to Queen Elizabeth 2. So Cromwell may have had reason to find evidence of Anne’s guilt. C’est la revanche des Boleyn !! Hmm, I don’t think so that’s the place where the Plantagenets died off because the boy princes died in the tower and the Tudor’s, ie Margaret Tudor’s son took the throne. A few days later, Anne comforted herself that she would have justice: “She said if any man accuse me I can say but nay, and they can bring no witness.” Crucially, the night before her execution, she swore “on peril of her soul’s damnation”, before and after receiving the Eucharist, that she was innocent – a serious act in that religious age. Mary was originally buried in the Cathedral in Burystedmunds but when her brother embarked on the Dissolution of the Monasteries she was reburied, a short distance away, in St Mary’s Church. Fascinating! It could imply that he was induced to marry Anne by premarital prophecies that she would bear sons, or could refer simply to Henry’s earlier infatuation or ‘bewitchment’ by Anne. On 15 May, Anne and Rochford were tried within the Tower by a court of 26 peers presided over by their uncle, the Duke of Norfolk. George VI’s mother Mary of Teck was born in Kensington Palace (in the same room where Queen Victoria herself was born) and raised in Britain. Queen Elizabeth II would be known as a descendant of “Lady Carey.” At any rate, it is fascinating to learn of her direct descendacy from Mary Boleyn through the Queen Mother. It might seem that this overstepped the normal boundaries of ‘courtly love’ talk only a little. Elizabeth's life was troubled from the moment she was born. That was in the papers years later as I read it also but it’s just speculation, there’s no evidence that Elizabeth the Queen Mother wanted to marry her brother in law, the papers just said that to make people buy them, when she married George she was devoted to him and heartbroken when he died. Henry was convinced by the charges against her; it was a devastating blow from which he never recovered. I completely agree with your eloquent response. She descended from King Henry viii’s sister. Crucially, however, this phrase is often used out of context. Hello distant cousin! We’ll never know though! Catherine Parr even kept the title of Dowager Queen as well. Thanks for putting me straight. April 1504 – 17 May 1536) was an English courtier and nobleman who played a prominent role in the politics of the early 1530s, and was the brother of Queen Anne Boleyn, from 1533 the second wife of King Henry VIII and thus the maternal uncle of Queen Elizabeth I (whose reign he did not live to see). I am descended from the Throckmortons of Coughton Court. But that doesn’t mean anything. The key piece of evidence was undoubtedly the confession by the first man accused, Smeaton, that he had had sexual intercourse with the queen three times. JJ Scarisbrick, author of the authoritative volume Henry VIII, agreed: “What had once been devastating infatuation turned into bloodthirsty loathing, for reasons we will never completely know.”. Do an Internet search for something like, “DNA + finding relatives + genealogy,” or any combination of keywords. During her imprisonment Sir William Kingston, constable of the Tower, reported Anne’s remarks to Cromwell. Anne was the illegitimate daughter of 1st Marquess Wellesley and his mistress, a French actress/courtesan named Hyacinthe-Gabrielle Roland. He obviously was still married to Katherine at this point and did not want to break his marriage to her at this point. … I wondered what became of Mary Boleyn’s children by Henry VIII? Lady Jane Grey is one of the most romanticized monarchs of Tudor England. Thanks you very much ! Anne Boleyn was the second wife of King Henry VIII and Queen Consort of England from June 1, 1533 to May 17, 1536. I am surprised, however, that people on this site would have a “problem” or “question” your posting of a very historic event. Claire, I have absolutely no problem with your interest and loyalty to Queen Elizabeth II. But Chapuys himself recognised that Henry and Anne had always been prone to “lovers’ quarrels”, and that the king’s character was very “changeable”. The Viking Connection is a good start to track the Persian equation The present royal family being related to the Boleyns has nothing to do with the succession or a claim to the throne, it’s just an interesting link. Mary is one of my great-grandmothers. Files Welcome Pack of 5 goodies. Absolutely Fascinating!! That last word translates as ‘sorcery, spells, charms’, and has given rise to the suggestion that Anne Boleyn dabbled in witchcraft. Both were prominent figures in Elizabeth I’s reign and close to Elizabeth I. A letter from him, dated to 1527, states that for more than one year Henry had been “struck by the dart of love” and asks Anne to “give herself body and heart to him”, Anne marries Henry. Yet just three years later her head was off – and the reason for her death remains one of the great mysteries of English history. This is absolutely fascinating. If the Boleyn family being they gave a Frech connection Bernard has described theirs as a “tumultuous relationship of sunshine and storms”. Just what I have read in different books over the years. Just until recently when I started doing my family geology, did I realize how prominent the Howard family were in British history. I absolutely adore this site! You take one away for the worries of our modern world. And isn’t the Dutchess of Camberage also a decendant of the Boylins? This never occurred and Richmond would die in 1536, but – until then – it was a possibility. The first one listed is Mary Devereux. val johnson. Clearly, the miscarriage was a great blow to both Henry and Anne – yet another four months were to pass before Anne’s death, so demonstrating a direct link between the events would be problematic. Did it cause Henry to believe that Anne would never be able to bear him an heir, and thus to consider the marriage doomed? Incidentally if you’ve ever been to that tower you’d know that rumors like that had to be true because it’s such a small Tower. . This rests upon a view of Henry as a pliable king whose courtiers could “bounce” him into action and tip him “by a crisis” into rejecting Anne. I’ve just about finished Alison Weir’s book on Mary Boleyn. ! Henry VIII is my 13th great grandfather through Catherine Carey. Mary Boleyn had had an affair with the king during his marriage to Catherine of Aragon and had been dismissed after consummating their union. So does the queen own Heever castlet then? Indeed she is! Mary Boleyn is my 13th grandmother. I’m also related through Catherine Carey and Anne West in the U.S. Enjoy English history as I descent from William Brewster (pilgrim) who was an assistant to Secretary of State tomQueen Elizabeth I. I have loved the history of the Tudors since I was a child. Monarchy Hahaha …ya mean whores and drunks. Both were found guilty of high treason. I think you are the only one who got it right. Read more about Henry VIII’s wives here, including: On 4 and 5 May, more courtiers from the king’s privy chamber – William Brereton, Richard Page, Francis Weston, Thomas Wyatt and Francis Bryan – were arrested. Hi Claire, Claire, is it true that Henry 8th was the descendent of a Persian? Je savais les mariages entre cousins et cousins éloignés et que l’Europe actuelle est faite de familles royales de même lignée, issue de la ” même famille ”. It has been proposed, therefore, that Henry asked Cromwell to get rid of Anne. And I agree that Miss Roland would think you were mad. Ancestry is fascinating. I also found out that Matoaka Powhatan also known as Pocahontas is my 10 times great aunt. Save up to 72% and get your first 3 issues for only £5! The first theory, argued by Boleyn biographer and scholar GW Bernard, is simply that Anne was guilty of the charges against her. Claire, Would you know who the first one in the Royal Line was to move to the American Colonies? Differences of opinion are thought to have arisen over the use of funds from the dissolution of the monasteries, as well as matters of foreign policy – seemingly slender motives for destroying a queen. That was in the newspapers but was then disproved by experts. Mary was a close confidant of Henry’s and he sort her opinion on her sister Anne before he chased her and fell in love.